Exclusive: Asylum seekers speak of racism on London's gay scene

Mahad, 25, and Yan, 21, are asylum seekers who came to the UK to escape homophobia in their home country. But since they arrived, they have been shocked to experience a different kind of intolerance – racism on the gay scene.

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22 November 2011
Dangerfield Mahad, 25, and Yan, 21, are asylum seekers who came to the UK to escape homophobia in their home country. But since they arrived, they have been shocked to experience a different kind of intolerance – racism on the gay scene.
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New to the UK, on a night out in Soho, brothers Mahad and Yan were exploring what central London’s gay scene had to offer.

Excitedly, they waited in the frosty night air to get into one of the area’s more famous gay venues.

“But after queuing for ages, we were told: ‘Sorry you can’t go in,’” says Mahad. “The guy behind me was let in. He happened to be white,” he adds.

Yan says: “It was obvious they were discriminating because of our skin colour.”

They had better luck getting into another venue. But once inside, they began to wonder why they bothered. Both young men are Muslims and choose not to drink alcohol.

“When I ordered a soft drink, I was told: “Oh you don’t drink, Cheap date! Boring!” says Yan.

Throughout the night, the brothers were on the receiving end of many other remarks, ranging from the thoughtless to the plain racist.

“Just because you’re brown skinned and from another country, older guys think they can have you because you’re desperate.”

What Yan and Mahad experienced that night was not untypical of nights out the young men have had on the gay scene.

“The racism I have faced in London is shocking,” says Yan.

Mahad fled from the country where he was born to the UK three years ago. Yan joined him last year. In their home country, a gay rights movement barely exists and you could be jailed for up to five years if caught committing a homosexual act.

The young men said they could not go into detail of where they have fled from incase it affected their asylum cases.

But in recent years, hopes of gaining residency in the UK have increased for asylum seekers like Yan and Mahad.

Last year, the Home Office told the UK Border Agency that new rules on protecting LGBT people fleeing persecution should be applied "with immediate effect".

The government said relevant cases should be "flagged and recorded", although ministers later admitted to not having accurate data about how many successful applications were based on sexual orientation.

The brothers now temporarily live in Enfield, north London, and are awaiting decisions on their asylum applications.

“I came here to be myself – gay,” says Yan. “Back in my country, I couldn’t be who I really am.”

“But the prejudice in London is more than I thought,” says Mahad. “It’s another kind of prejudice. People have stereotypes about people with brown skin.”

A recent study by gay men’s health charity GMFA highlighted how gay ethnic minorities face “a dual challenge” of racial prejudice and homophobia.

GMFA spokesman Matthew Hodson said: “There is a definite need for more research on community building and issues of identities.”

The past year has seen rising tension between gay and Muslim communities in some parts of the country.

Tower Hamlets in east London is a striking example of one of those areas.

Earlier this year, flyers were posted near to gay pubs in the borough stating: "Arise and warn. Gay free zone. Verily Allah is severe in punishment."

Mohammed Hasnath, 18, from Tower Hamlets, was later fined for putting up the homophobic flyers. Meanwhile, gay rights march East London Pride was cancelled in April after it was alleged one of its organisers, Raymond Berry, had links to the far-right English Defence League.

Mr Berry and the original organising committee resigned and it has been reported he no longer has links to the far-right group.

Yusef , 27, is a Muslim gay man who lives in Tower Hamlets and runs Imaan welfare service, part of an online support service for Muslims who are gay.

"Any problems faced on the gay scene - you can double them," he says.

He recalls some of his own experiences of intolerance.

“Visually, I’m white, but I’m Arab so people have said to me ‘oh, you must be one of those really religious jihad types,’” he says. “When we go out, some of us pray,” adds Yusef, who has lived in London for five years and is foster parent to a 16-year-old girl.

“A couple of us were praying in Soho Square during Ramadan.”

“People were stopping and staring. One of them asked: ‘What the f*ck is he doing? Isn’t he meant to be gay?’”

Yusef thinks such racist behaviour is exacerbated by a lack of understanding of religion.

“Many people assume that religion is homophobic - that if you’re gay and religious you’re going to go to hell,” he says.

“People find it hard to understand how you can keep your faith and live as a gay man.”

He gives the example of how he was once told by a transsexual person that he should not be a Muslim because Sharia law would “stone me and I’d burn in hell”.

“The problem is that gay men already face prejudice from people who live heteronormative lifestyles so they try to avoid anything that represents that behaviour,” he says.

“Most gay men class religion as heteronormativity, therefore think ‘why would you associate yourself with that?’”

“People find it hard to comprehend that you can be comfortable in your sexuality and your religion,” he adds.

“Faith classes at school rarely touch on LGBT issues and for many young people it’s ingrained in them that being gay is wrong. 

“They live dual identities so once they’ve dealt with being gay, they then have to deal with what religion thinks.”

“They decide to leave religion to one side and think – I’ll just be gay for now.

“That creates ignorance and racism.”

But he says he does not let being gay affect his religious beliefs.

“I eat Halal food, I pray as much as I can, I’m monogamous with my partner, I lead a religious life,” he says.

“The Koran tells you to read and research and there are lots of interpretations,” he explains.

“The book doesn’t only say ‘he’ or ‘she’. It also talks about mates. It also talks about the third sex. If homosexuality didn’t existent it wouldn’t talk about these things.

“Meanwhile, there has been an increase in Imams who are understanding of gay issues.”

But he says, “for being Muslim and gay to be normalised by society, there’s still a long, long way to go”.

- Photo by Malc Stone.

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- 06/12/2011 23:47:24

@ the blatantly obvious daily mail reader of 03/12/2011 14:24:11 i doubt your views would change if these gentlemen were full uk citizens and experiencing the same racist problems - that really is the impression you're giving. You seem to have a problem with their faith and the way they choose to live, but surely Britain offers an individual to live their life as they choose? (within limits, obviously). And since when was it forbidden or illegal for asylum seekers, poor people and benefit recipients to not go out and enjoy themselves? It's interesting that you then go on to condemn them religiously - can you not accept that people may have differences in opinion or interpretation, and further to respect that difference? You sound like the kind of people that these asylum seekers are escaping from. And how can you then complain about them complaining - do you condone the racism they are experiencing?

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- 06/12/2011 23:44:19

@ the blatantly obvious daily mail reader of 03/12/2011 14:24:11 i doubt your views would change if these gentlemen were full uk citizens and experiencing the same racist problems - that really is the impression you're giving. You seem to have a problem with their faith and the way they choose to live, but surely Britain offers an individual to live their life as they choose? (within limits, obviously). And since when was it forbidden or illegal for asylum seekers, poor people and benefit recipients to not go out and enjoy themselves? It's interesting that you then go on to condemn them religiously - can you not accept that people may have differences in opinion or interpretation, and further to respect that difference? You sound like the kind of people that these asylum seekers are escaping from. And how can you then complain about them complaining - do you condone the racism they are experiencing?

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- 06/12/2011 23:41:12

@ the blatantly obvious daily mail reader of 03/12/2011 14:24:11 i doubt your views would change if these gentlemen were full uk citizens and experiencing the same racist problems - that really is the impression you're giving. You seem to have a problem with their faith and the way they choose to live, but surely Britain offers an individual to live their life as they choose? (within limits, obviously). And since when was it forbidden or illegal for asylum seekers, poor people and benefit recipients to not go out and enjoy themselves? It's interesting that you then go on to condemn them religiously - can you not accept that people may have differences in opinion or interpretation, and further to respect that difference? You sound like the kind of people that these asylum seekers are escaping from. And how can you then complain about them complaining - do you condone the racism they are experiencing?

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- 03/12/2011 14:24:11

What a load of PC tosh. It seems that one of the men in this article refuses to drink alcohol as he's a Muslim. Fine. But refraining from alcohol is a discipline in Islam. Sex outside marriage (or just sex between men) is a grave sin - punishable by death. So he chooses to avoid alcohol but is ok with committing "sodomy". I really, really am sick to death of ungrateful whingers who come to the UK and live off our kindness and charity yet do nothing but complain about us! What a bloody cheek! If this man is such a devout Muslim, why is he visiting gay bars in the first place? I know many devout Christians who happen to be homosexual, they wouldn't dream of going down Old Compton Street. By the way, if these two brothers who have managed to get to the UK (where the benefits system is very generous) are asylum seekers, how can they afford to go out clubbing, etc? I know I know someone disabled who used to work for many years but who couldn't afford to go out to Soho. It's time

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- 30/11/2011 16:13:18

I am gay, I was Christian and a Quaker. For my sexuality I was sacked from my job as a teacher, by an extreemist religious headmaster. Religious intollerance is up and running in all religions, not just anti-Islam. I am now very suspicious of anyone who claims to be a Christian in case they use their religious beliefs to harm me again.

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- 23/11/2011 19:18:04

Wow. I'm finding some of these comments quite depressing. While I appreciate that we are only hearing one side of the story and the club involved has not been given the right to reply, can we justify tit-for-tat prejudice? I'm not religious, and I do find elements of organised religion oppressive, but surely people have the right to follow their faith as long as their individual practice doesn't infringe someone else's rights.

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- 23/11/2011 12:23:54

oh which venue turned them away? right to reply or just made up...

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- 23/11/2011 12:19:19

From an outsider point of view it seem that thse particular people want to pick and choose which parts of Islam to follow? They want to be good muslims- but still be gay. They wish to follow a religeon that excludes them in almost all muslim countries.

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- 23/11/2011 02:34:35

He says "people with brown skin" -- but I don't know how true that is. I'm white, but my spouse is Indo-British, and very "brown" toned. We live in Canada, and go to Britain every year, and never had an issue at London bars. Men (particularly the effeminate ones) are always flirting with him, just as much as other gay do with me, so all seems fair to me. Where is the racism? He mentions that old men think he must be "desperate and easy" because he's brown, but old men treat me as if I'm easy too, and I'm not brown skinned. The issue becomes more obvious near the end of the article, he's an open Muslim. Nothing to do with racism there. Maybe it's religious bigotry, the same kind of bigotry that a Mormon would face if he walked into a gay bar, but it's not based on race.

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- 22/11/2011 21:52:53

50 to 100 years from now gay men will be getting hanged from cranes in Trafalgar Square. The politicians of Europe are selling out western liberal democracy. The moment Islam gets a majority in any country they will legally adopt Sharia law. There is no doubt that extreme Islamacists have an agenda and the agenda is the Islamification of Europe. They tried it when they conquered Bygantium and the Turks were only stopped at the gates if Vienna. Islam is a decent religion but there are too many crazies who want to impose and not coexist.

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- 22/11/2011 14:24:23

When leaflets are handed out in the east end by muslims saying "gay free zone" and being gay is illegal in almost all muslim countries ( where is the interpretation there!)it any wonder the gay people are suspicious ?

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